Loss leaders: December 2009 Archives
Real estate agents are not renowned for the quality of their copy. Agents with English as their second language will get a lot of slack from me, because it's not easy being functional in a foreign country. That said, a home seller has every right to expect their property to be represented in the best possible light, and if that includes paying a professional photographer for nice outdoor shots or slipping a $20 to a starving English major at Alameda College to proofread marketing copy, it's the bare minimum an agent should be held to, regardless of their proficiency in any language. Especially if they stand to make a $60,000 commission from that same seller.
Which is why, for the life of me, I can't fathom why the owners of 26 Castlebar Place, a 4,062-sqft house on the bay with a fantastic view (MLS(r) #40443065) that almost makes up for its spectacularly hideous interior, haven't summarily dismissed the agent presumably responsible for this wretched monstrosity of a listing, reproduced here from Craigslist in its entirety, complete with a photo of said agent in lieu of the property. Emphasis added for extra oomph.
In addition to the horrendous English, the virtual tour link is dead.
I fully expect hate mail calling me a racist for picking on poor Victoria's broken English, completely missing the point I am making here (never mind that I myself could very well have been raised in the exact same town as Victoria)--I don't care of you've got a PhD in classics, Wernicke's aphasia, or 2 years of Berlitz English courses under your belt, you simply do not advertise a $2M house like this. It's beyond unprofessional.
The official MLS(r) listing, by Tina Wong, is not great but considerably better, and somewhat imaginatively worded (emphasis added):
Update 12/31/09: Victoria's back.
Which is why, for the life of me, I can't fathom why the owners of 26 Castlebar Place, a 4,062-sqft house on the bay with a fantastic view (MLS(r) #40443065) that almost makes up for its spectacularly hideous interior, haven't summarily dismissed the agent presumably responsible for this wretched monstrosity of a listing, reproduced here from Craigslist in its entirety, complete with a photo of said agent in lieu of the property. Emphasis added for extra oomph.
$1999000 / 4br - Exquisite Taste In Living (alameda) (map)
Date: 2009-12-28, 3:34PM PST
Reply to: [redacted]This property has the most enchanting design. "Outstanding" describes this exquisite custom built home which situated in the best area of Alameda! Approx. 4062 living square feet huge home on a 4800 square feet lot. 2 Stories facing the bay, views are amazing when you care how to enjoy life! patio from master is dainty designed as the bow of a ship!PostingID: 1528128763
round Glass Ceiling in the central of the house aborting blue skylight come along with an extraordinary stair shows impressive style precisely. Pragmatic kitchen has its' open dinning area. Built-In Walkie-Talkie throughout the house with gas heated fireplace. Split up section of entertainment, relaxation and a parlor. One bedroom downstairs may be utilized as an office or guestroom with full bathroom off rear. In additional, there is cubbholes for storages under the chairs appear like inhabited solely in a cruise.
* Totally 4 huge bedrooms joined with a spacious family room
* Grand bathroom and walk in closing in expansive master Suite
* Gleaming hardwood floor through out the whole house
* Granite shower stall and marble tile flooring in all bathrooms
* Unique circular shape hallway
* Two car attached garage with storage space
* Wonderful Alameda neighborhood and school district
* Charming and Fresh Feeling, This is the dream home that you have been waiting!
Please E Mail to Victoria Lam at [redacted] for additional information and view the photos by clicking: http://odc.rw.imprev.net/tmp/31/531/8693/
OPEN HOUSE THIS SUNDAY FROM 1-4P.M., SELLER'S MOTIVATE, DON'T MISS THE CHANCE!
26 Castlebar Place
- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
In addition to the horrendous English, the virtual tour link is dead.
I fully expect hate mail calling me a racist for picking on poor Victoria's broken English, completely missing the point I am making here (never mind that I myself could very well have been raised in the exact same town as Victoria)--I don't care of you've got a PhD in classics, Wernicke's aphasia, or 2 years of Berlitz English courses under your belt, you simply do not advertise a $2M house like this. It's beyond unprofessional.
The official MLS(r) listing, by Tina Wong, is not great but considerably better, and somewhat imaginatively worded (emphasis added):
This impeccably designed luxury home offers unparalleled view of the bay & its unique design has brought the outside scenery into this voyager. Ample natural lighting via large windows & centre circular dome roof; ea. window assembles a live moving picture, must see to appreciate.So I don't know what exactly happened to allow that train wreck of a Craigslist post to go live, but someone dropped the ball, and I felt it my duty to bring this to the sellers' attention. Given the property's sale history, it's likely they need to squeeze every penny out of this sale, and this shameful listing sure isn't helping.
Property History for 26 CASTLEBAR Pl
| Date | Event | Price |
|---|---|---|
| Dec 21, 2009 | Listed | $1,999,000 |
| Dec 16, 2003 | Sold (Public Records) | $1,890,000 |
| Nov 29, 1989 | Sold (Public Records) | $345,000 |
Update 12/31/09: Victoria's back.
$1990000 / 4br - Outstanding Custom Built 4000sq.ft. Big House (alameda) (map)
Date: 2009-12-31, 1:26PM PST
Reply to: [redacted]
This property has the most enchanting design. "Outstanding" describes this exquisite custom built home which situated in the best area of Alameda! Approx. 4062 living square feet huge home on a 4800 square feet lot. 2 Stories facing the bay, views are amazing when you care how to enjoy life! patio from master is dainty designed as the bow of a ship!
round Glass Ceiling in the central of the house aborting blue skylight come along with an extraordinary stair shows impressive style precisely. Pragmatic kitchen has its' open dinning area. Built-In Walkie-Talkie throughout the house with gas heated fireplace. Split up section of entertainment, relaxation and a parlor. One bedroom downstairs may be utilized as an office or guestroom with full bathroom off rear. In additional, there is cubbholes for storages under the chairs appear like inhabited solely in a cruise.
* Totally 4 huge bedrooms joined with a spacious family room
* Grand bathroom and walk in closing in expansive master Suite
* Gleaming hardwood floor through out the whole house
* Granite shower stall and marble tile flooring in all bathrooms
* Unique circular shape hallway
* Two car attached garage with storage space
* Wonderful Alameda neighborhood and school district
* Charming and Fresh Feeling, This is the dream home that you have been waiting!
Please E Mail to Victoria Lam at Celestialinv@yahoo.com for additional information and view the photos by clicking: http://odc.rw.imprev.net/tmp/31/531/8693/
OPEN HOUSE THIS SUNDAY FROM 1-4P.M., SELLER'S MOTIVATE, DON'T MISS THE CHANCE! E-Mail to : Celestialinv@yahoo.com for pictures.
26 Castlebar Place (google map) (yahoo map)
I wonder who the first part of this "new" listing is directed to. 1419 Cottage Street, a cute overpriced cottage that failed to sell last year, is back on the market for a lower, still-too-high price. The specs, as a reminder:
The agent helpfully confirms this is the same property one may have seen last year (emphasis mine), which saved me a couple of minutes. Thanks!
was close to the then-asking price (screenshot taken today, 12/23/09):
The price has come crashing down to $619,000 and claims to be a great value, even though the renovations are still not finished. Note to agents and sellers: "less than I paid" does not equal "great value" to other people.
On a per-square-foot basis, $480 / sqft is a full $130 / sqft more than the going price these days, which in your case translates to about $170,000. In other words this property should be priced around $450,000. Sure, the agent claims there's a full floor's worth of square footage available, but 1) it's not verifiable unless you look at the permit status and 2) the work isn't finished yet. Expecting a $130 / sqft premium in advance for the promise of square footage when the next owner will have to fork over extra money to be able to live in that square footage is moronic.
So welcome back and happy holidays, little house. Happy new year, too.
3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1,289 sqft, 5,000-sqft lot, built in 1895, MLS(r) #40442977, $619,000 ($480 / sqft)
The agent helpfully confirms this is the same property one may have seen last year (emphasis mine), which saved me a couple of minutes. Thanks!
Yes, this one was on the market last year. New low price and additional work to the finished basement. Square footage will be approx double with some extra work. Quiet neighborhood. Great value.The Zestimate a year and a half ago... (screenshot taken in Spring 2008; note the owner-inflated estimate):
was close to the then-asking price (screenshot taken today, 12/23/09):The price has come crashing down to $619,000 and claims to be a great value, even though the renovations are still not finished. Note to agents and sellers: "less than I paid" does not equal "great value" to other people. Property History for 1419 COTTAGE St
| Date | Event | Price | Appreciation | Source |
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|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dec 21, 2009 | Listed | $619,000 | -- | EBRD #40442977 |
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| Aug 17, 2005 | Sold (Public Records) | $700,000 | 13.4%/yr | Public Records |
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| Aug 09, 2002 | Sold (Public Records) | $479,000 | -- | Public Records |
On a per-square-foot basis, $480 / sqft is a full $130 / sqft more than the going price these days, which in your case translates to about $170,000. In other words this property should be priced around $450,000. Sure, the agent claims there's a full floor's worth of square footage available, but 1) it's not verifiable unless you look at the permit status and 2) the work isn't finished yet. Expecting a $130 / sqft premium in advance for the promise of square footage when the next owner will have to fork over extra money to be able to live in that square footage is moronic.
So welcome back and happy holidays, little house. Happy new year, too.
Hi everybody!
1304 Morton Street finally sold in early December for $938,000, according to Redfin.
In summary:
The extent and quality of the renovation work on top of the previous sale price (above $500,000) means the now former owners likely didn't make their money back on the transaction.
The moral of the story? Don't over-improve, and don't spend 6 figures on your kitchen.
That's a $312,000 price drop from the initial list price (about 25%) and 20 months on the market. I trust Redfin won't begrudge me a full history:
1304 Morton Street finally sold in early December for $938,000, according to Redfin.
In summary:
- April 2008: 1304 Morton St appears on the market, listed at $1,250,000
- July 2008: the price is dropped to $1,199,000
- September 2008: the price is dropped to $1,150,000
- March 2009, almost a year after the initial listing, the property is relisted for $975,000
- August 2009: the price is dropped to $949,999
- December 2009: the property closes for $938,000
The extent and quality of the renovation work on top of the previous sale price (above $500,000) means the now former owners likely didn't make their money back on the transaction.
The moral of the story? Don't over-improve, and don't spend 6 figures on your kitchen.
That's a $312,000 price drop from the initial list price (about 25%) and 20 months on the market. I trust Redfin won't begrudge me a full history:
Property History for 1304 MORTON St
| Date | Event | Price | Appreciation | Source |
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|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dec 02, 2009 | Sold (MLS) | $938,000 | -- | Inactive MLSListings #80911577 |
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| Nov 12, 2009 | Delisted | -- | -- | Inactive MLSListings #80911577 |
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| Sep 22, 2009 | Delisted | * | -- | Inactive EBRD #4 |
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| Aug 21, 2009 | Price Changed | * | -- | Inactive EBRD #4 |
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| Aug 21, 2009 | Price Changed | $949,999 | -- | Inactive MLSListings #80911577 |
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| Mar 10, 2009 | Listed | * | -- | Inactive EBRD #4 |
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| Mar 06, 2009 | Listed | $975,000 | -- | Inactive MLSListings #80911577 |
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| Jan 01, 2009 | Delisted | * | -- | Inactive San Francisco MLS #1 |
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| Nov 21, 2008 | Delisted | * | -- | Inactive EBRD #3 |
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| Nov 20, 2008 | Delisted | -- | -- | Inactive MLSListings #2 |
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| Jul 22, 2008 | Listed | * | -- | Inactive San Francisco MLS #1 |
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| Jul 21, 2008 | Price Changed | -- | -- | Inactive MLSListings #2 |
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| Jul 19, 2008 | Price Changed | * | -- | Inactive EBRD #3 |
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| Jun 11, 2008 | Price Changed | * | -- | Inactive EBRD #3 |
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| Jun 11, 2008 | Price Changed | -- | -- | Inactive MLSListings #2 |
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| May 02, 2008 | Listed | * | -- | Inactive EBRD #3 |
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| Apr 25, 2008 | Listed | -- | -- | Inactive MLSListings #2 |
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