September 2008 Archives
You may remember a pair of properties on Pacific that used to spam the heck out of craigslist a few months back. "Possibilities!" and "Build your own MTV Crib" were some of the slogans they used to try to unload them onto unsuspecting buyers.
Thankfully they disappeared for a while, and I assumed they had finally sold--the bigger one had dropped its price by $650,000, after all.
Well. It's back. No price. I think my favorite part of the listing is "Abundant room for 30+ car parking and areas for Bbq's and entertaining with friends"--it is indeed awesome for those parties with 50+ people you're certain to be throwing on a very, very regular basis.
Update 10/9/08: This is getting better and better. The last time this orange-cream elephant was on the market, back in July, it had dropped down to $840,000 (from $1,450,000). This round of craigslist posts started off coy, with no price on the listing. Perhaps it was trying the old "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" method. Well, today they dropped that strategy and came out with a brand new price of...
(drum roll)
$975,000.
It also has an agent, Kelly Foreman.
I don't know whether Ms. Foreman or the owner came up with that brilliant number, but they're both responsible for agreeing to it. How exactly do they expect to fetch $135,000 more than the last unsuccessful price, arrived at after at least three months of successive drops in the middle of the hottest selling season, when the Dow Jones has lost over 2,200 points in less than a week, at least a dozen major financial institutions have failed, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been nationalized, GMAC's rating is under review for a possible downgrade, unemployment is over 6%, and we're entering the slowest selling season for real estate?
MORONS.
Update 12/13/08: Just to drive home (no pun intended, and certainly not two) the point the lot is large and accommodates a lot of cars, here are the photos attached to a recent craigslist post:

Thankfully they disappeared for a while, and I assumed they had finally sold--the bigger one had dropped its price by $650,000, after all.
Well. It's back. No price. I think my favorite part of the listing is "Abundant room for 30+ car parking and areas for Bbq's and entertaining with friends"--it is indeed awesome for those parties with 50+ people you're certain to be throwing on a very, very regular basis.
Update 10/4/08: Marketing hyperbole is one thing, but lying is another. And "Only 10 minutes drive to San Francisco and any Bay Area destination." is a lie. You're lucky if you can get into the city in 25 minutes. And "any Bay Area destination" includes, say, San Jose, which you can only reach in 10 minutes if you're already there. Aren't FSBOs supposed to abide by the same advertising rules as brokers?Large Property! Huge Double Lot ! Best Park St. Location! (alameda) (map)
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Date: 2008-09-29, 11:34AM PDT
Fantastic Alameda, California Best Trendy Location
Attention Professional's, Contractors etc. build your own MTV's Crib!!!!
I have a unique house in Alameda, @ Park St.The house is walking distance to Alameda's popular cafes, Trendy bars, The Marketplace, Havana, La Pinyata and just about everything.Only 10 minutes drive to San Francisco and any Bay Area destination.
The property is Large and the house is 4+ bedrooms (approx 1833 sqft)with a large formal living room and large formal dining room .High 10ft Ceilings,refinished woodfloors. Downstairs there is (approx 1833 sqft)of space (rooms,2 Bathrooms) Unique Zoning for possible Commercial shop or many uses even build work/live loft etc. Great for owner user business and write off mortgage. What also makes this place special is that it's on an 10877 sqft lot. The lot is half cemented for parking etc. Abundant room for 30+ car parking and areas for Bbq's and entertaining with friends.This is a must see and could be a "one of a kind" place for the right person.
please call 510-575-6099
Update 10/9/08: This is getting better and better. The last time this orange-cream elephant was on the market, back in July, it had dropped down to $840,000 (from $1,450,000). This round of craigslist posts started off coy, with no price on the listing. Perhaps it was trying the old "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" method. Well, today they dropped that strategy and came out with a brand new price of...
(drum roll)
$975,000.
It also has an agent, Kelly Foreman.
Kelly Foreman | Pacific Sales & Management | kellyforeman@pacificsmi.com | 510-501-2302 |
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I don't know whether Ms. Foreman or the owner came up with that brilliant number, but they're both responsible for agreeing to it. How exactly do they expect to fetch $135,000 more than the last unsuccessful price, arrived at after at least three months of successive drops in the middle of the hottest selling season, when the Dow Jones has lost over 2,200 points in less than a week, at least a dozen major financial institutions have failed, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been nationalized, GMAC's rating is under review for a possible downgrade, unemployment is over 6%, and we're entering the slowest selling season for real estate?
MORONS.
Update 12/13/08: Just to drive home (no pun intended, and certainly not two) the point the lot is large and accommodates a lot of cars, here are the photos attached to a recent craigslist post:

Today's craigslist post doesn't beat about the bush. Why rent, indeed, when you can pay more to own a property that's losing value by the day?
Russia San Francisco from there:
And sure enough, this is a semi-recent overpriced purchase:
Update 10/29/08: Still on the market, at the same price.
Update 11/1/08: An identically-sized neighbor just closed for $275,000. Why rent!
The unit itself is small and unremarkable, and still way overpriced at $350 / sqft:$300000 Distress Sale * Short Walk to Shoreline Dr * Why Rent? * Only 3% Down! (alameda)
Reply to: hous-859914599@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2008-09-29, 12:19PM PDT
LIGHT AND AIRY 2ND FLOOR UNIT WITH ENCLOSED PATIO. SPACIOUS LIVING/DINING. 1 BLOCK TO THE BEACH. CLOSE TO SHOPPING AND TRANSPORTATION. COMMUNITY POOL. LOCK BOX IS ON THE WATER PIPE NEAR THE DRIVEWAY. Please click on the property address to view the full details of this property. If you are pre-approved (no pre-quals please) and not working with an agent, feel free to contact me for a private showing.
$299,000 - 325 KITTY HAWK Unit 206All my best,Mustafa Afzali, ePro
2 bedrooms, 1 1/2 bathrooms, 854 sqft, built in 1964This complex is so close to the beach you can almost see
And sure enough, this is a semi-recent overpriced purchase:Another one bites the dust. YayLast sale and tax info
- Sold 01/27/2004: $290,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $4,104
Update 10/29/08: Still on the market, at the same price.
Update 11/1/08: An identically-sized neighbor just closed for $275,000. Why rent!
It seems the market has ground to a stop this week, perhaps in reaction to the current crisis on Wall Street. But that hasn't stopped owners on Parfait Lane from advertising their overpriced condos on craigslist.
102 Parfait Lane and 108 Parfait Lane have identical specs:

102 was purchased almost 20 years ago:
108 was purchased 4 1/2 years ago:
And therein lies the rub for Ron Palmer's listing: 102 is asking for about 9% more than 108's previous purchase price ($480,000), while its neighbor is trying to get a whopping $645,000, a 34% premium over the other unit, which is already arguably overpriced at $313 / sqft with those sizable HOA dues ($4,920 per year that's not going into your roof/flooring/plumbing fund or other property-value-enhancing vehicle).
Another interesting sign of the times is that it took 15 years for $239,000 to grow into $438,000 (a fairly normal 4.125% y-o-y appreciation), but 108's owner has no qualms about expecting the same absolute gains in just four years (a completely unreasonable 10.125% y-o-y appreciation). And 102 claims to be an upper unit, which is arguably better than a ground-floor unit--no amount of flamenco dancing by your neighbors can dislodge your chandeliers or rattle your dentures.
I once heard a house owner deride condo living as a lifestyle sought after by fat retirees wearing big gold chains and half-open Hawaiian shirts. I see it more as a dangerous proposition when near-perfect comps are right under your nose (16 ft away, per Google's walking directions), waiting to strike at your listing with the exact same offerings and a lower price.
In any case, $410 / month sure buys you a lot of Hawaiian shirts.
Update 10/17/08: Neighbor 115 Parfait Lane, with the exact same 2+2, 1,534-sqft specs, sold for $485,000 after being listed at $549,000:

102 Parfait Lane and 108 Parfait Lane have identical specs:
2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1,534 sqft, $410 / month HOA duesAccordingly, they also have near-identical descriptions (and presumably the same amenities for the same $410 / month HOA dues).
102 says "Well-maintained upper unit at Brittany Landing The Bay. Located next to San Francisco Bay there are bay and lagoon walking paths with sweeping San Francisco views. The Harbor Bay Fitness Club is a short walk and Brittany Landing has a lovely pool and hot tub. Spacious open rooms with vaulted ceilings and a balcony off the master bedroom are just a few of its special features"
108 says "beautiful 2 bedroom 2 bathroom condo in brittany landing at the bay in harbor bay, alameda. 1534 sq. ft. newer hardwood floors in entry, kitchen and hallway. gated community with 24 hr. security. swimming pool and spa. carefree living in alameda. available for viewing by appointment only. monday thru friday 9am to 4pm. no weekend viewing. call Ron Palmer at 510-735-4753 for your own personal tour. Prudential California Realty 3320 Grand Ave Oakland, Ca"

102 was purchased almost 20 years ago:
Last sale and tax info
- Sold 07/31/1989: $239,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $4,345
108 was purchased 4 1/2 years ago:
Last sale and tax info
- Sold 03/12/2004: $438,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $5,912
And therein lies the rub for Ron Palmer's listing: 102 is asking for about 9% more than 108's previous purchase price ($480,000), while its neighbor is trying to get a whopping $645,000, a 34% premium over the other unit, which is already arguably overpriced at $313 / sqft with those sizable HOA dues ($4,920 per year that's not going into your roof/flooring/plumbing fund or other property-value-enhancing vehicle).
Another interesting sign of the times is that it took 15 years for $239,000 to grow into $438,000 (a fairly normal 4.125% y-o-y appreciation), but 108's owner has no qualms about expecting the same absolute gains in just four years (a completely unreasonable 10.125% y-o-y appreciation). And 102 claims to be an upper unit, which is arguably better than a ground-floor unit--no amount of flamenco dancing by your neighbors can dislodge your chandeliers or rattle your dentures.
I once heard a house owner deride condo living as a lifestyle sought after by fat retirees wearing big gold chains and half-open Hawaiian shirts. I see it more as a dangerous proposition when near-perfect comps are right under your nose (16 ft away, per Google's walking directions), waiting to strike at your listing with the exact same offerings and a lower price.
In any case, $410 / month sure buys you a lot of Hawaiian shirts.
Update 10/17/08: Neighbor 115 Parfait Lane, with the exact same 2+2, 1,534-sqft specs, sold for $485,000 after being listed at $549,000:

Reader D. noticed I didn't cover the property at 1820 Elm Street when it appeared on the market. The main reason I didn't is because I can't find any decent pictures anywhere that I'm allowed to show, and because its MLS(r) listing creeps me out. But in the interest of thoroughness, here goes Freddy Krueger's house.
There's no significant sale history to discuss, so one has to assume it's a regular ol' sale without all that much at stake. The sellers don't seem too motivated, either, judging by the bare-bones listing. We shall see if anyone picks it up.
2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1,056 sqft, 4,550-sqft lot, MLS(r) #40367213, $425,000The description is engaging: "Please do not disturb tenants." And there's no heat. Sure makes you want to buy it right now. At $402 / sqft in a part of town not particularly reknowned for its loveliness, it's overpriced by a good $50,000, and its laconic listing with no pictures of the inside doesn't help its cause.
Please do not disturb tenants.
There's no significant sale history to discuss, so one has to assume it's a regular ol' sale without all that much at stake. The sellers don't seem too motivated, either, judging by the bare-bones listing. We shall see if anyone picks it up.
The Stonehenge complex in Alameda is a weird but delightful-looking cluster of English-y homes in an enclosed mini-park, complete with high-pitched roofs (sorry, rooves) and cutesy stone paths. It's also a hornet's nest of bad financial decisions, what with unit D being listed below its previous sale price a couple of months ago, and unit B following suit this week. Here are the specs:

Amusingly, it was purchased just three years ago for $588,000 (note the great street view picture):
Update 10/28/08: Down to $499,000. Wowza.
2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1,196 sqft, 3,000-sqft lot, MLS(r) #40371081, $569,000
English style home [...] park like setting. Hardwood floors, updated kitchen [...] charm [...] vintage details.

Amusingly, it was purchased just three years ago for $588,000 (note the great street view picture):
Another one bites the dust. Yay.
Sale History 03/18/2005: $588,000
Update 10/28/08: Down to $499,000. Wowza.
$499000 New Price! ~2Bdrm Storybook Home -by Appt. (alameda) (map)
Reply to: daveparkrealtor@gmail.com [?]
Date: 2008-10-28, 3:35PM PDT
Don't miss this extraordinary two bedroom one bath split level Storybook home designed by Oakland architect Walter W. Dixon. Set in a tranquil courtyard and surrounded by similarly styled storybook homes with gardens and a fountain in the center, each property is truly a work of art.Call Dave Park,Realtor (510) 710-4345 or visit www.1545BSantaClara.com for more information
A "fantastick" 2-level home near the East End just hit the market. It's small and overpriced, as usual, and has a surfeit of lavatories, per various public records:
Sale history data suggest the owners are trying to get out before the market hits 2003 levels again.
Update 12/11/08: Not that far. Sold to some idiot willing to pay $639,000.
2 bedrooms, 5 bathrooms, 1,118 sqft, approx. 3,900-sqft lot, MLS #40371001, $649,000
Charming split level steps from Edison Elementary. [...] vintage details - coved ceilings, [...] pegged random plank wood floors. [...] Dream of a kitchen. Fantastick yard [...]That works out to $580 / sqft, which is completely out of touch with reality, especially considering it has serious competition from the Fairview house and the Pearl house, which are bigger and cheaper.
Sale history data suggest the owners are trying to get out before the market hits 2003 levels again.
Let's see how far down it needs to drop before it sells.
Sale History 05/09/2003: $456,000 No other sale data is available
Update 12/11/08: Not that far. Sold to some idiot willing to pay $639,000.
I don't know if someone actually did to a decent CMA, or if the market beat the astronomical odds of having two sellers with a clue list their homes the same week, but we have ourselves an interesting battle of the Craftsman homes brewing.
To my left, the incumbent, listed on 9/19/08, is 1371 Pearl Street, a large Craftsman with the following specs:
To my right is 3215 Fairview Avenue, a far-East-End Craftsman with the following specs:
I don't know which one will sell first, but they're certainly priced somewhat reasonably for this market ($354 / sqft and $360 / sqft, respectively), and directly in competition with one another. My guess would be that Fairview will sell for more money and/or sooner, because of its location.
What is certain is that the fixers in the neighborhood are in for a serious reality check.
To my left, the incumbent, listed on 9/19/08, is 1371 Pearl Street, a large Craftsman with the following specs:
3 bedrooms, 1 1/2 bathrooms, 1,691 sqft, 4,920-sqft lot, finished basement(!), MLS(r) #40370464, $599,000No sale history on Zillow and a very low property tax for 2007 suggest it's been owned for a long time.
Charming [...] East End. Large living room [...] brick fireplace box beamed ceiling's and inlaid hardwood floors. [...] finished basement perfect for office [...] Deck off master bedroom [...]
To my right is 3215 Fairview Avenue, a far-East-End Craftsman with the following specs:
3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1,665 sqft, approx. 4,790-sqft lot, split level, MLS(r) #40371023, $599,000The sale history is somewhat recent, but suggests the owner has maneuvering room:
[...] craftsman [...] one of Alameda's most sought after neighborhood
Pearl has a basement and seems to be in beautiful condition judging by the photos on the property site. Fairview has the extreme East End appeal that makes people lose their minds and overbid like crazy.Last sale and tax info
- Sold 02/22/2001: $400,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $5,882
I don't know which one will sell first, but they're certainly priced somewhat reasonably for this market ($354 / sqft and $360 / sqft, respectively), and directly in competition with one another. My guess would be that Fairview will sell for more money and/or sooner, because of its location.
What is certain is that the fixers in the neighborhood are in for a serious reality check.
In the continuing "maybe it wasn't such a good idea to buy an overpriced property we can't afford" saga, today we (re)introduce 1813 9th Street, a small, unassuming house at the north end of 9th street. The specs are unimpressive:
I'd personally describe it as "blends in with the elements," which I suppose is curb appeal for the privacy-minded.
At $375,000 ($380 / sqft) it is significantly overpriced, but considerably less so than it was the last time it sold:
I really hope the idiots who approved those loans, and the idiots who signed their names at the bottom, really enjoy the financial ruin they so richly deserve.
2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 986 sqft, approx. 5,220-sqft lot, MLS(r) #40370885, $375,000Good curb appeal and desirable area are all in the eye of the beholder.
GOOD CURB APPEAL, HARDWOOD FLOORS, [...] WELL-PRICED HOME IN A DESIRABLE AREA.
I'd personally describe it as "blends in with the elements," which I suppose is curb appeal for the privacy-minded.At $375,000 ($380 / sqft) it is significantly overpriced, but considerably less so than it was the last time it sold:
That's right: somebody paid $558 / sqft for that nondescript little box in a nondescript neighborhood.
Sale History 05/05/2008: $441,150 * 01/11/2005: $550,000 10/01/1999: $215,000 No other sale data is available * Transaction not included in Zestimate
I really hope the idiots who approved those loans, and the idiots who signed their names at the bottom, really enjoy the financial ruin they so richly deserve.
Update 12/22/08: Sold for $450,000. I guess Alameda is still crawling with imbeciles.
Little by little, it seems the market is being reshaped by repossessed/foreclosed houses that were sold for too much money a couple of years ago. Another one of those just hit the market, a little Craftsman at 1107 High Street. The specs:
Update 12/11/08: Sold to another moron for way too much money, $535,000.
2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1,071 sqft, 3,430-sqft lot, MLS(r) #40370821, $529,900At $495 / sqft, it's significantly overpriced, but it appears to be close to the foreclosed amount:
Charming Arts & Crafts bungalow [...] original details and some updating. [...] open/ spacious feel. Nicely finished hardwood floors, built-in cabinets. [...] workshop/storage in rear. Don't miss this one.
Sales History
You can't blame the bank for trying to make its money back. Oh wait, yes, you can, since they had no business making that loan to begin with. $615,000 for a sub-1,100-sqft bungalow is complete insanity, and $529,900 is not much better.
Sale History & Tax Info Sale History 07/22/2008: $544,541 * 09/27/2006: $615,000 10/03/2000: $311,000 No other sale data is available * Transaction not included in Zestimate
Update 12/11/08: Sold to another moron for way too much money, $535,000.
This is rich. Jose Cerda-Zein, a local Realtor(tm), wants to do lunch with me and coach me so I (he and I, really) can create a great life for me and my family. To be a more successful real estate agent. To be less negative. Somehow José appears to believe I'm a Realtor(tm).
You don't know me from Adam; I can tell you that we have never met. Yet why do you so readily offer to "coach me" so that you can take credit for the "great life for [me] and [my] family" that you and I will achieve together?
Are you in a cult, Jose? A Scientologist, perhaps?
Maybe you're not in a cult. You're a Realtor(tm). I get those confused.
Thanks for the email and for the laughs.
Here's a question, Jose: what in my 220+ vitriolic posts makes you think I am a Realtor(tm)? Do I sound like a Realtor(tm)? Do I spend my time saying "interest rates are at historic lows" or "it's a buyer's market" or "buy now or be priced out forever" or "it's a great time to buy" or "prices are low" or "we've reached the bottom"? Do I capitalize random words? Do I paint an ever-rosy picture of the real estate market in Alameda?Jose Cerda-Zein to me
L. Opine... i have a few questions...1. I am curious are you a REALTOR?2. What is your name?3. If you are a Realtor... What is your production level? Spending your time being negative and researching must directly impact your production. I can help you increase your business so you dont have so much time on your hands.4. Lets grab lunch Tuesday or Wednesday at noon... We can discuss how I can coach you to become postive and succesful. and together we can create a great life for you and your family... That is what you want... isnt it? We could meet at... Toomies or Linguinis? Which one works for you.Thank you so much for your time and giveing me the opportunity to work with you....
You don't know me from Adam; I can tell you that we have never met. Yet why do you so readily offer to "coach me" so that you can take credit for the "great life for [me] and [my] family" that you and I will achieve together?
Are you in a cult, Jose? A Scientologist, perhaps?
Maybe you're not in a cult. You're a Realtor(tm). I get those confused.
Thanks for the email and for the laughs.
Real estate agents must use a special dictionary. In mine, a "bargain" is a good deal, a product that can be obtained for less money than other comparable products, or for less than you would normally expect to pay for it in general. A house priced around $800,000 rarely qualifies. Especially with the following specs:
The sale history is littered with non-arms-length transactions:
Update 10/31/08: Indeed. Down to $775,000.
Update 1/10/09: Sold for $750,000. What a STEAL!
3 bedrooms, 2 1/2 bathrooms, 1,736 sqft, 4,050-sqft lot, MLS(r) #40355249, $799,000, listed 7/10/08Ringo: $460 / sqft is not a bargain. In fact it's arguably too expensive by a factor of 2. And "designer paint" doesn't really cost any more than the odd bucket of Behr.$799000 Bargain 4 Bedroom home in Harbor Bay (alameda)
Reply to: rliu@hbrinfo.com [?]
Date: 2008-09-19, 2:27PM PDT
Sunny southern special floorplan w/High ceiling. Large private backyard. Newer designer paint. Good Size driveway. Close to Shoreline, park, & school. Wider st. attractive move-in condition.
Must See!!
Open House Sun 9/21 2-4 pm
Harbor Bay Realty
Ringo Liu
510.814.4848
The sale history is littered with non-arms-length transactions:
I suspect the listing history will also be littered with price drops.Sales History
Sale History & Tax Info Sale History 06/30/2005: $150,000 * 04/07/1987: $204,000 * No other sale data is available * Transaction not included in Zestimate
Update 10/31/08: Indeed. Down to $775,000.
Update 1/10/09: Sold for $750,000. What a STEAL!
Smaller multi-family homes are always a risky bet: they're harder to sell than single-family residences, and any vacancy can mean a 50% drop in your monthly rental income. That's why it's really, really important for any such investment to be cashflow-positive from the get-go, especially in a market with negative appreciation.
Today's "exceptional duplex" is an interesting investment opportunity (postlet is here).
Check out theawful vintage paneling job cool tree house apartment:

But what is truly exceptional about this property is that it flaunts how cashflow-negative it is on the mother of all real estate sites, the big kahuna, Realtard dot com hisself (screenshot resized and mangled to protect the innocent):
Let's summarize:
Grand total, before insurance, utilities and income tax on the rent = $4,161 / month in the red.
There's no sale history on Zillow, and the property tax is listed at $1,697 / year, so one assumes this is a fully-owned, paid-off house that's a good 90% profit for the current owners. Maybe somebody should tell them that they're not going to get a million bucks for their treehouse because it DOES NOT MAKE ANY FINANCIAL SENSE.
Update 1/3/09: Still for sale (gee, I wonder why). Seller says:
Update 3/14/2010: Miraculously, a price drop!
Today's "exceptional duplex" is an interesting investment opportunity (postlet is here).
$999000 Exceptional Duplex on a Large Corner Double Lot (alameda) (map)
Reply to: hous-846571314@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2008-09-18, 9:52PM PDT
1201 Peach Street, Corner of San Jose Avenue
3 bedroom - 2 bath: 1808sqft lower unit
1 bedroom - 1 bath: 1000sqft upper unit
Amenities: breath taking hardwood floors throughout, a very large one car attached garage, large two car detached garage, off street parking for three additional cars, new appliances, washer and dryer included in both units, large double corner lot, beautiful knotty pine "tree house" apartment, separate utilities and much much more.
Click on this link for more pictures and detailed information: http://www.postlets.com/res/1012455
Priced Reduced to $999,000 or best offer!
For more information or to schedule a private showing please call:
Mary - 510-915-1011
or
Dominic Carrion, Agent - 510-717-5076 Liberate Financial Corp.
Also can be seen on www.realtor.com http://www.realtor.com/realestate/alameda-ca-94501-1101448605/ for additional information.
MLS ID #40356443
Check out the

But what is truly exceptional about this property is that it flaunts how cashflow-negative it is on the mother of all real estate sites, the big kahuna, Realtard dot com hisself (screenshot resized and mangled to protect the innocent):
Let's summarize:Income = $3,600 / month
Mortgage = $5,322 / month
$200,000 sunk as down payment and not invested in a 3% CD = $500 / month (20% down is one of realtard's assumptions)
1% maintenance = $832 / month
Property tax = $957 / month
1 month of rent a year lost due to turnover = $150 / month
Mortgage = $5,322 / month
$200,000 sunk as down payment and not invested in a 3% CD = $500 / month (20% down is one of realtard's assumptions)
1% maintenance = $832 / month
Property tax = $957 / month
1 month of rent a year lost due to turnover = $150 / month
Grand total, before insurance, utilities and income tax on the rent = $4,161 / month in the red.
There's no sale history on Zillow, and the property tax is listed at $1,697 / year, so one assumes this is a fully-owned, paid-off house that's a good 90% profit for the current owners. Maybe somebody should tell them that they're not going to get a million bucks for their treehouse because it DOES NOT MAKE ANY FINANCIAL SENSE.
Update 1/3/09: Still for sale (gee, I wonder why). Seller says:
Mary P
ALL OFFERS CONSIDERED!!
Here's an offer: I will stop being snarky with your listing if you drop the price to a reasonable level. How about $499,000.
Office: 510-915-1011 Email: mslisaj@dslextreme.com
Update 3/14/2010: Miraculously, a price drop!
If I see another listing touting the merits of a self-indulgent, over-improving kitchen remodel with Terminator appliances for the discriminating chef, I might start using foul language.
Today's kitchen porn comes courtesy of Angelo Raymundo:
I hope the pampered pups who live in this (almost!) 1,400-sqft 2-bedroom house with only 1 1/2 bathrooms but a $80K kitchen and a silly fountain in the yard had fun overimproving, because I doubt many people will enjoy the privilege of spending more money on their cabinets and appliances than the average American couple earns in a whole year for much longer. They might have to spend it on frivolous pursuits like food, education or healthcare instead.
Of course the nextsucker buyer isn't just getting a house--they're getting a STUNNING KITCHEN REMODEL!@@@ so they're going to have to drop some serious coinage. $521 / sqft for (almost!) 1,400 sqft, only 2 bedrooms and not even a spare shower in the house? Give me a break. I guess you could always bathe in the pond and rinse under the calming trickle.
The sale history is unsurprising:
Update 10/5/08: Price dropped a pathetic $30,000, "to sell." Pshaw.
Update 12/13/08: Sold for $667,500 after 43 DOM.
Today's kitchen porn comes courtesy of Angelo Raymundo:
Behold the koa-powered gleam:$719000 @@@BEAUTIFUL FERNSIDE TRADITIONAL W/STUNNING KITCHEN REMODEL!@@@ (alameda) (map)
Reply to: hous-846558723@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2008-09-18, 9:32PM PDT
OPEN HOUSE! SUNDAY, SEPT. 21st, 2-4:30PM
Gorgeous split-level Traditional in lovely Fernside neighborhood of Alameda, with 2 bedrooms and 1.5 baths and almost 1400 square feet of living space! Sophisticated and chic, this historical home boasts formal living and dining rooms, and an exquisitely remodeled kitchen, fit for any chef with discriminating taste; a spacious kitchen featuring VIKING appliances, including a six burner gas stove with double oven, stainless steel refrigerator and dishwasher, Brazilian Koa flooring, and self-closing walnut-stained cabinetry. From the kitchen, walk out onto the deck overlooking an enchanting garden with flowering plants and trees, complete with a fountain that offers the calming sounds of trickling water. And not to forget, the extra room and half bath on the lower level is perfect for office, den, or playroom. Ideally located in desirable East end near shops, parks, and transportation. A lovely home by any standard and one that is not to be missed!
Some highlighted features:
- Split-level 2 bdr / 1.5 bath
- Hardwood floors and carpeting throughout
- Fireplace in livingroom
- Stunningly remodeled kitchen includes:
* Stainless steel Viking appliances
* Brazilian Koa wood floors
* Walnut-stained self-closing cabinetry
* Marble countertops
* Eat-in area
* Access to deck/patio/garden
- Bonus/laundry room in basement
- One car garage with interior access
- Beautiful garden/patio area with shade trees and pond
- Mostly updated electrical, plumbing, and newer roof
For more information or to schedule a private showing, please call Angelo Raymundo with RE/MAX Accord at (510) 435-9543.
Virtual tour: www.3011FERNSIDE.com
Thank you for your interest!
I hope the pampered pups who live in this (almost!) 1,400-sqft 2-bedroom house with only 1 1/2 bathrooms but a $80K kitchen and a silly fountain in the yard had fun overimproving, because I doubt many people will enjoy the privilege of spending more money on their cabinets and appliances than the average American couple earns in a whole year for much longer. They might have to spend it on frivolous pursuits like food, education or healthcare instead. Of course the next
The sale history is unsurprising:
A note to the agent: Alameda has enough truly "historic" homes for you not to make up new ones for poetic effect. "Old" does not mean "historic". Look it up next time.
Sale History 08/29/2003: $522,000
Update 10/5/08: Price dropped a pathetic $30,000, "to sell." Pshaw.
$689000 PRICE REDUCED TO SELL! BEAUTIFUL FERNSIDE TRAD. W/STUNNING KITCHEN! (alameda) (map)
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Date: 2008-10-05, 11:34AM PDT
OPEN HOUSE SUNDAY, OCT. 5TH! 2-4:30PM
Gorgeous split-level Traditional in lovely Fernside neighborhood of Alameda, with 2 bedrooms and 1.5 baths and almost 1400 square feet of living space! Sophisticated and chic, this historical home boasts formal living and dining rooms, and an exquisitely remodeled kitchen, fit for any chef with discriminating taste; a spacious kitchen featuring VIKING appliances, including a six burner gas stove with double oven, stainless steel refrigerator and dishwasher, Brazilian Koa flooring, and self-closing walnut-stained cabinetry. From the kitchen, walk out onto the deck overlooking an enchanting garden with flowering plants and trees, complete with a fountain that offers the calming sounds of trickling water. And not to forget, the extra room and half bath on the lower level is perfect for office, den, or playroom. Ideally located in desirable East end near shops, parks, and transportation. A lovely home by any standard and one that is not to be missed!
Update 12/13/08: Sold for $667,500 after 43 DOM.
There are a lot of rules regarding what words agents may or may not use, often leading to long and essentially vacuous property descriptions that vaguely say a lot of things and precisely nothing.
One still-licit word that strikes me as dubious at best is desirable. If you search Trulia in Oakland with that keyword, guess where those properties are concentrated? Now think about how the population of Oakland is distributed ethnically, and compare that to the great map on crimespotting.
Desirable. It's the new white?
One still-licit word that strikes me as dubious at best is desirable. If you search Trulia in Oakland with that keyword, guess where those properties are concentrated? Now think about how the population of Oakland is distributed ethnically, and compare that to the great map on crimespotting.
Desirable. It's the new white?
If you're a regular reader of this blog, you probably know of my loathing of Realtor(tm) marketing copy. I have nothing against sales-y writing in principle--when you have to sell things, you have to write about them. It's the empty cliché-ridden nonsense that gets me.
Today's diamond in the rough is a middling example of copywriting incompetence and agent arrogance.
And no, you're not priced right, mister meticulous diamond. Your original-condition house on the lagoon is a cookie-cutter 60s rancher on a dime-sized lot:
See?
So $476 / sqft for a house on a lot the size of a motorcycle garage? That might be priced right for your seller, but it's still overpriced.
Today's diamond in the rough is a middling example of copywriting incompetence and agent arrogance.
Original condition but meticulously maintained. One-level [...] Diamond in the rough, and priced rightNow what exactly is a meticulously maintained diamond in the rough? Is it like a moderately old Ming dynasty Dixie cup? A compact luxury Yugo sport-utility limousine?
And no, you're not priced right, mister meticulous diamond. Your original-condition house on the lagoon is a cookie-cutter 60s rancher on a dime-sized lot:
2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1,307 sqft, 3,390-sqft lot, MLS(r) #40369062, $620,000And it's on the wrong section of the lagoon.
See?So $476 / sqft for a house on a lot the size of a motorcycle garage? That might be priced right for your seller, but it's still overpriced.
You know the market is down when you can buy a Victorian duplex for under $500,000. Either that or the house is a wreck. Or maybe both:
It was purchased 15 years ago for a tiny amount, and because it takes a while to ruin a property such that it needs "LOTS of TLC" (not just "TLC" or "lots of TLC"--real estate agents are case-sensitive), I'm wondering if it was already a wreck then and has only been minimally maintained (if at all) since that last purchase:
Opportunity knocks to restore this Victorian duplex [...] The property needs LOTS of TLC. Upstairs unit is 2 bedroom/1 bath, downstairs is 1 bedroom/1 bath. [...]It appears the owners were among many Alameda property owners who had delinquent waste management accounts with the city last summer (pdf). Other than that, there isn't much about this property on the Web.
1538 Schiller Street, 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 2,078 sqft, 3,538-sqft lot, MLS(r) #40368892, $499,000
It was purchased 15 years ago for a tiny amount, and because it takes a while to ruin a property such that it needs "LOTS of TLC" (not just "TLC" or "lots of TLC"--real estate agents are case-sensitive), I'm wondering if it was already a wreck then and has only been minimally maintained (if at all) since that last purchase:
It's hard to imagine how a property in bad shape that cost $499,000 would cash flow as a duplex with only 3 bedrooms, but the savvy real estate investors in Alameda have proved time and time again that cash flow is totally passé, so I suspect somebody will pick this one up in short order.
Sale History 08/31/1993: $85,500
One of several homes that recently appeared on the market for under half a million dollars, 951 Post Street is an average-spec'ed home on a block filled with some of the most depressing, ugly and urban-sprawly post-war houses in all of Alameda.
It also abortedly abuts Otis Drive. There must have been an outlet into Otis at some point, but now the south end of the road is permanently closed off, so living on that godforsaken block gives you all the traffic noise and none of the convenience afforded by its proximity to Otis.
For some inexplicable reason, though, the house at 984 Post sold for $689,000 in early 2007. I toured that house when it was on the market and thought I would need to order a boatload of Prozac from a Canadian pharmacy from the sheer desolation and boredom that oozed from every square inch of sheetrock.
That said, if you're into sober-to-a-fault 1940s squares, this "cosmetic fixer" can be had for a non-jumbo loan (if you have a down payment; but these days if you don't have one you might as well forget about buying; imagine that!) At $374 / sqft it's a decent start, but you'd have to pay me that much to live there.
The sale history suggests somebody is losing money on the transaction no matter what (the 2006 sale looks like a non-arms-length transaction); at least they had the sense to price the property below $500K.
Update 9/5/09: Sold for $395,000 in May, 2009.
3 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1,324 sqft, 4,250-sqft lot, MLS(r) #40370111, $495,000This isn't a photo of the house in question, but the whole block looks like this:
Excellent opportunity to be in Alameda community [...] Cosmetic fixer [...]
It also abortedly abuts Otis Drive. There must have been an outlet into Otis at some point, but now the south end of the road is permanently closed off, so living on that godforsaken block gives you all the traffic noise and none of the convenience afforded by its proximity to Otis.For some inexplicable reason, though, the house at 984 Post sold for $689,000 in early 2007. I toured that house when it was on the market and thought I would need to order a boatload of Prozac from a Canadian pharmacy from the sheer desolation and boredom that oozed from every square inch of sheetrock.
That said, if you're into sober-to-a-fault 1940s squares, this "cosmetic fixer" can be had for a non-jumbo loan (if you have a down payment; but these days if you don't have one you might as well forget about buying; imagine that!) At $374 / sqft it's a decent start, but you'd have to pay me that much to live there.
The sale history suggests somebody is losing money on the transaction no matter what (the 2006 sale looks like a non-arms-length transaction); at least they had the sense to price the property below $500K.
Update 9/25/08: It's a short sale. Who would have thought!
Sale History 01/31/2006: $300,000 * 08/05/2004: $545,000 09/13/1999: $265,000 06/14/1995: $195,000 * Transaction not included in Zestimate.
Update 10/13/08: Price dropped to $395,000 (thanks to homeseeker for the tip)$495000 Opportunity in East End (alameda) (map)
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Date: 2008-09-25, 3:53PM PDT
Excellent opportunity in East End. Cosmetic fixer in need of a vision. 3 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, family room, 2 fireplaces 2 car garage. Short Sale Open Sunday September 28, 2-4 For more information call Claudia 339-4729 @Coldwell Banker
Update 9/5/09: Sold for $395,000 in May, 2009.
This is a tough year for financial institutions. WaMu, Lehman, Merrill, Bear, AIG, Freddie, Fannie, all are in trouble, and some money market funds have broken the buck for the first time ever. Not coincidentally, it seems that the Alameda market is also crossing a threshold: there are quite a few houses priced under half a million dollars on the market right now. Together with tougher lending standards and down payment requirements, this means you can buy a house with an old-school conforming loan under $417,000.
Of course it doesn't mean you should. Prices have a long way to go before they bottom out. But if for some strange reason just just must buy right now, there are some sub-$500K homes to be had.
Individual posts about these homescoming up.
Of course it doesn't mean you should. Prices have a long way to go before they bottom out. But if for some strange reason just just must buy right now, there are some sub-$500K homes to be had.
Individual posts about these homes
Writing listings isn't hard, but occasionally you'll run into some that have you scratching your head.
The house is brand new, so there's no record of it on Zillow or Trulia. The current price big works out to $408 / sqft, which is a bit steep, even with a happy chef in the kitchen and very, very clean residents in the 5 bedrooms using the multiple cleaning devices in the master bath. If it's brand new, the builder might have some room to drop the price a bit (again).
You just have to have a house with a price big change and stainless steal appliances.$898000 Price big change.Brand New House 5bed/3bath/2pkg,Bay Farm Island (alameda)
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Date: 2008-09-16, 6:54PM PDT
Price big change. was $950,000 and Now asking:$898,000. This is a brand new, never been lived in home in Bay Farm Island of Alameda. This gorgeous 4 bedroom upper, 1 bedroom on street level, 3 bathroom, 2 car side by side parking garage house is 2,200 square feet, and features new hardwood floors, cascading staircase and high end, new luxury kitchen appliances sure to make any chef happy.
Floor plan includes high vaulted ceilings, large formal dining room and spacious kitchen.
New stainless steal appliances, granite counter tops and pristine hardwood floors.
Master bedroom with large master bath including jet bath, independent shower and dual vanity sink.
The house is brand new, so there's no record of it on Zillow or Trulia. The current price big works out to $408 / sqft, which is a bit steep, even with a happy chef in the kitchen and very, very clean residents in the 5 bedrooms using the multiple cleaning devices in the master bath. If it's brand new, the builder might have some room to drop the price a bit (again).
If you build enough additions, what's old can be new again. Today's once-tiny cottage at 2144 Encinal used to be an itty bitty house, but was expanded twice such that its actual square footage isn't displayed anywhere that I found. First the specs:
Public records: 1 bedroom, 1 1/2 bathrooms, 660 sqft, 7000-sqft lot
Listing: 3 bedrooms, 2 1/2 bathrooms, ? sqft, $749,000, MLS(r) #40369591
FABULOUS ALMOST BRAND NEW 3 BED/2.5 BATH HOME [...] REMODELED AND EXPANDED WHILE RETAINING IT'S ORIGINAL HISTORIC CHARACTER. [...] LOTS OF NATURAL LIGHT THROUGHOUT, HARDWOOD FLOORS, CROWN MOLDINGS [...](map)
The lot does appear to be huge, and all the additions have apparently been done with the right permits and historical society approval (pdf). The permit application describes the structure as follows:
The owner paid $412,000 for the original crackerbox in 2004:
I guess they must have been, since it's listed at $749,000. Never mind you can get Victorians for less than that, but I suppose Victorians aren't for everybody. Maybe they're way into Shaker-style minimalism.
Update 11/6/08: Hilariously, the price was dropped to $739,000 on 11/2 after over 6 weeks on the market.
In general, the exterior appearance of the cottage is modest.That's the understatement of the week. I fail to see any original charm (at least from the outside), which makes sense if only one third of the current structure is actually old, and while I applaud the owner and architect's preservation of an "old" look to the place, it's still pretty bleh.
The owner paid $412,000 for the original crackerbox in 2004:
Why they thought it would be a good idea to sink who knows how many tens of thousands of dollars into a full redo with matching addition, I have no idea. If they'd paid $100K for it, maybe, but $412,000 for what was a 628-sqft structure with a 1952 addition in the back? Were they really expecting to make their money back?Last sale and tax info
- Sold 07/21/2004: $412,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $5,846
I guess they must have been, since it's listed at $749,000. Never mind you can get Victorians for less than that, but I suppose Victorians aren't for everybody. Maybe they're way into Shaker-style minimalism.
Update 11/6/08: Hilariously, the price was dropped to $739,000 on 11/2 after over 6 weeks on the market.
There are so many foreclosures hitting the market this month I'm wondering if we've crossed a threshold where home"owners" aren't even trying anymore and walking away is now the first-resort option.
A duplex at 1828-1830 Buena Vista just appeared on the market with no description in the MLS(r). The publicly available specs:
Indeed I almost went to its open house in the spring of 2007, noting that this particular building was one of the nicer houses on an otherwise so-so block of Buena Vista. The house was listed at $715,000 in May of last year, and I decided against going because the market just wasn't ready for the kinds of cashflow-positive offers I would have made. And sure enough, a year after it was purchased for way over asking (almost to the day), a foreclosure-like transaction was recorded:
Let me repeat that.
$200,000.
Less.
Than last year's price.
On a relatively small, unassuming house.
My mind is blown. I think this might be the fastest foreclosure I've written about on this blog. Considering it takes anywhere between 150 and 300 days to complete the process in California, it means the "owner" of this home may have made two or three payments before things went south.
Update 1/10/09: Sold for $510,000. That's more like it.
A duplex at 1828-1830 Buena Vista just appeared on the market with no description in the MLS(r). The publicly available specs:
4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, 1,960 sqft, 4,080-sqft lot, 2 units, currently $589,900I didn't remember the address, but the Google Street View looked very familiar:
Indeed I almost went to its open house in the spring of 2007, noting that this particular building was one of the nicer houses on an otherwise so-so block of Buena Vista. The house was listed at $715,000 in May of last year, and I decided against going because the market just wasn't ready for the kinds of cashflow-positive offers I would have made. And sure enough, a year after it was purchased for way over asking (almost to the day), a foreclosure-like transaction was recorded:Sales History
The current list price still doesn't cash flow, but it's TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS than the property was purchased for A YEAR AGO.
Let me repeat that.
$200,000.
Less.
Than last year's price.
On a relatively small, unassuming house.
My mind is blown. I think this might be the fastest foreclosure I've written about on this blog. Considering it takes anywhere between 150 and 300 days to complete the process in California, it means the "owner" of this home may have made two or three payments before things went south.
Update 1/10/09: Sold for $510,000. That's more like it.
I remember late 2005 as the time I decided the market was out of control and about to crash hard. Looking back at prices, you do see an inflection point in late 2005-early 2006, with more houses selling for their asking prices (or less), compared to the endless bidding wars we observed in the first part of the decade. Back-of-the-envelope calculations told me prices were inflated by about 100%, i.e. houses were selling for twice what they were really worth in a balanced market where incomes actually sustain the mortgages people are paying. The old 3x earnings rule hasn't applied for a long time in the Bay Area, but we got close to 10-12x at the peak, and now everybody is paying the price for the collective insanity that gripped the state (the nation, and the world--just look at Ireland, Australia, Thailand, Vietnam and Spain).
It turns out that embattled bank Lehman Brothers agrees with me. Except it took them 3 years to come out and say it.
To Alameda real estate agents: spare yourself the embarrassment of company-line drivel like "Alameda is different" and "prices are holding steady." Yes, I am sure you can find the occasional overpriced East End or Fernside house selling at or over asking. So can I. I can also point to dozens if not hundreds of houses selling at a loss and/or below their inflated asking prices--just look through the archives on this blog.
Here's a question for everyone reading this, especially those of you waiting for the market to drop back to normal before you buy. What are your thoughts on how much prices will fall, and do you have a target date for that elusive "bottom" real estate professionals claim we've reached?
It turns out that embattled bank Lehman Brothers agrees with me. Except it took them 3 years to come out and say it.
"[The Lehman] base case assumes national home prices drop 32% peak to trough, vs. 18% to date, with California down 50% vs 27% to date."From Lehman conference call via Calculated Risk. An excellent analysis of rents, income to debt ratios and related issues is available there as well.
Ian T. Lowitt, Lehman CFO
To Alameda real estate agents: spare yourself the embarrassment of company-line drivel like "Alameda is different" and "prices are holding steady." Yes, I am sure you can find the occasional overpriced East End or Fernside house selling at or over asking. So can I. I can also point to dozens if not hundreds of houses selling at a loss and/or below their inflated asking prices--just look through the archives on this blog.
Here's a question for everyone reading this, especially those of you waiting for the market to drop back to normal before you buy. What are your thoughts on how much prices will fall, and do you have a target date for that elusive "bottom" real estate professionals claim we've reached?
In real estate, it's all about location, location, location. And when your location blows, your sale prospects are grim. This gorgeous, amusingly described "stoic" Italianate Victorian is nestled amidst auto body shops, dilapidated warehouses, graffitied corrugated fences and a number of home-based businesses in the industrial area of Alameda:
Its specs are mouth-watering:
But it's not clear the owner has much room to budge on the price, given:
I'd hate to see this fabulous-looking house on a big lot go to pot, though. Maybe someone can come in, buy the whole block, and raze those businesses to build a latter-day Fernside estate.
Its specs are mouth-watering:4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 2 stories, 2,183 sqft, 6,750-sqft lot, MLS(r) #40349929The MLS(r) pictures I'm not allowed to show suggest it's in great condition, at least the outside. But not great enough to warrant its current asking price of $695,000 ($318 / sqft), or its previous list price of $719,000 (the price drop occurred in early September, 2008). Certainly not on that block with its dilapidated, train-track-encrusted blacktop.
Stoic italianate victorian in mixed use area. [...] office-lower and residential income upper. [...]
But it's not clear the owner has much room to budge on the price, given:
Note to "investors": paying $650,000 for a duplex does not make sense, especially when said duplex's location knocks a good 25% off the price of any comp you might be looking at for your CMA.Last sale and tax info
- Sold 10/04/2006: $650,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $6,276
I'd hate to see this fabulous-looking house on a big lot go to pot, though. Maybe someone can come in, buy the whole block, and raze those businesses to build a latter-day Fernside estate.
It's condo night at the Opine compound. Another example of skillful financial management on boring lovely Otis Drive caught my eye. 2033 Otis Drive, unit B, has the following unappetizing specs:
On the plus side, it's a block away from the hospital lagoon, which is handy when you're in the mood for a lye-and-tonic a bird-watching stroll.
Did I mention it'sonly $299,000, a mere $404 / sqft? And that there are at least two slightly newer comparable condos, closer to the beach, with none of the traffic you get at the Otis and Willow intersection? They're also considerably closer to the park, and on the market for quite a bit less.
This unit actually started much higher, listed at $370,000 in late April, 2008. It dropped to $350,000 soon after that, in early May, and then again to its current price, $299,000, in mid-June. It hasn't dropped any further since, and I get the feeling it just can't, given its sale history and its full renovation with Terminator appliances and lapidary countertops. It was already listed at a loss back in April, even without counting the renovation.
took the Alameda market by storm mostly spared Alameda and everywhere else in the country (sales volume down 9.4%, price down 27.3% y-o-y in July for Alameda County, per DataQuick). This is another great development for the market. Let's see how it weathers the end of the selling season and the holiday sneer cheer.
1 bedroom, 1 bathroom, 741 sqft, built in 1968, MLS(r) #40338934, $299,000
Fully renovated in 2006. Pool view [...] granite counters in kitchen, stainless steel appliances
On the plus side, it's a block away from the Did I mention it's
This unit actually started much higher, listed at $370,000 in late April, 2008. It dropped to $350,000 soon after that, in early May, and then again to its current price, $299,000, in mid-June. It hasn't dropped any further since, and I get the feeling it just can't, given its sale history and its full renovation with Terminator appliances and lapidary countertops. It was already listed at a loss back in April, even without counting the renovation.
This unit has been for sale for over 4 1/2 months, and it was listed at just the right time for the fabled "Spring bounce" thatLast sale and tax info
- Sold 04/21/2006: $375,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $1,148
Earlier today I blogged about a condo on Shorepoint Court that's down 33% in real dollars since its last sale. As it turns out, there's competition right across the street, at 965 Shorepoint Court.
This unit was purchased for $239,000 in 2004, and I'll be surprised if they break even after commissions and the next inevitable round of price drops (because $361 / sqft is silly).
1 bedroom, 1 1/2 bathrooms, 773 square feet, $279,000, MLS(r) #40349068The price has been dropped by a measly $10,000 already, and the unit has been on the market for a little over 3 months. It's smaller than its cousin at 960, but offers an extra half bath, for $39,000 more. The view of the pool is pitched as a bonus, but I'm not sure I want to see my HOA meeting cohorts in their Speedos (or hear the shrieks of their divorced spouses' children around the pool every other weekend) from both my living room and bedroom.
[...] View of pool from both living and bedroom. [...] Very quiet complex. Clean and fresh unit.
This unit was purchased for $239,000 in 2004, and I'll be surprised if they break even after commissions and the next inevitable round of price drops (because $361 / sqft is silly).
Last sale and tax info
- Sold 04/27/2004: $239,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $3,509
It's been a while since I blogged about a condo, and the history on 960 Shorepoint Ct #208 is worth blogging about. The unit itself is not particularly inspiring, other than the fact it's about a block away from the beach and the park.

1 bedroom, 1 bathroom, 798 sqft, built in 1972, $240,000, MLS(r) #817140
This house is situated in a very desirable neighborhood. [...] Must see to appreciate.

I find it hard to describe this giant condo farm as a "neighborhood," and it's not a "house," but no matter. It started out at $259,000 in late June, 2008, and dropped its price to $240,000 a month later. It's been on the market for almost 3 months now (with no photo), and sadly at $301 / sqft I feel it has a ways to go (down, that is) before anyone buys it--you can probably rent a similar unit for about $1,000 a month, which is about half the mortgage + property tax + HOA dues + assessments (condos from the early 1970s can be pretty high-maintenance).
What's interesting to me is how quickly it came back on the market after its previous sale, and how it's now dropped 26% in "value" (about 33% in real dollars), yet nobody has bought it:
What's interesting to me is how quickly it came back on the market after its previous sale, and how it's now dropped 26% in "value" (about 33% in real dollars), yet nobody has bought it:
If that doesn't send market players the message that housing was overvalued by at least a third until the credit crunch, I don't know what will.Last sale and tax info
- Sold 03/17/2006: $325,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $3,404
A little bird told me the new listing at 517 Taylor, a West-End bungalow on a stretch of tightly huddled-up homes, might be a foreclosure (MLS(r) #40368965). The specs are bleh:

It's a large home for a 2+1 floor plan, but the lot is small (most of them are on that block of Taylor), so $349 / sqft is a bit high, especially considering the last sale amount (presumably the balance of the loan in default that's being foreclosed upon):
Update 11/26/08: Dropped to $519,900.
2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1,615 sqft, 3,772-sqft lot, $563,900
(no description as of 9/12/08)

(view map)
It's a large home for a 2+1 floor plan, but the lot is small (most of them are on that block of Taylor), so $349 / sqft is a bit high, especially considering the last sale amount (presumably the balance of the loan in default that's being foreclosed upon):
I didn't find any other sale information anywhere. What I did find is that 517 Taylor is or was the address for a flooring business--I doubt the warehouse was there, so it was probably a home-office/administrative address sort of thing.
Historical home sale price (1): $324,350 Prior sale date: Jul 31, 2008
I get the feeling this will be priced around $499,000 before you know it.
West Side Flooring
517 Taylor Ave
Alameda, CA 94501
Contact West Side Flooring
Phone: (510) 865-6510
Business Profile for West Side Flooring
Services: Floors, Flooring & Flooring Contractors
Update 11/26/08: Dropped to $519,900.
$519900 BAnk Owned West End bungalow waiting for some TLC (alameda) (map)
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Date: 2008-11-26, 11:18AM PST
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Details Photo Gallery View Rooms 94501-Alameda (West End) FOR SALE
$519,900
[...]
Details Address: 517 Taylor Type: Residential Style: Single Story Bedrooms: 3 Bathrooms: 2 Suite: No Living Area: 1,615 square feet Year Built: 1915
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Description This is a very spacious home for the price. Kitchen is still in decent shape and has a nice large living room with nice wood detailing. The carpets have been pulled back and it looks like hardwood floor in living room and dining room. Close to the shoreline path. Build some sweat equity in this home and bring it back to its former glory. Close to schools Webster St. shopping district and great multi-use bayview paths.
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Go REO, go!
(My emphasis).
$509000 BANK-OWNED-REO- WONDERFUL BAY FARM LOCATION -WOW !!! (alameda)
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Date: 2008-09-12, 10:11AM PDT
Click be Bank Owned. A Wonderful Bay Farm Island Location, Well Maintained, Single Level Home, Close to Ferry. Don't Miss This One!! low for more details!
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(My emphasis).
An East Bay MLS(r) yelled at me under the DMCA (PDF) for posts they claim infringed on their copyright, in spite of the fair-use doctrine and without specifying anything. They still haven't responded to my requests for details, so as far as I'm concerned they voided their own request. Details and contents of my last email here. Please comment in that thread if you're so inclined.
Another day, another short sale. This Victorian-era duplex on Pacific just came up on the MLS(r) under #40368754. The specs:
4 bedrooms, 2 1/2 baths, 2,704 sqft, 3,750-sqft lot, $599,999It doesn't look like much.
Short Sale, this is as good Opportunity to have ownership on this Duplex, [...] 2 bed 1 bath each unit in very good condition, plus Studio on the attic [...] rented for $800.00 won't last long call me today
Annoying capitalization aside, the listing puts forward part of the amazing income this property generates. Assuming the two 2+1 units bring in $1,400 each, we're talking $3,600 a month in income, against roughly $3,200 a month in mortgage + $500 in property tax and $500 set aside for maintenance, or a net $7,200 loss every year. No wonder the morons owners are losing the house to a short sale.
Another piece of good news for the market.Last sale and tax info
- Sold 04/10/2006: $797,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $9,811
WTF is up w/ those abbrev. posts on MLS(r) sites? Today's listing has "ez acces to parks."

I remember seeing this mini Vic on the market not that long ago, and indeed it has sold twice over the past 3 1/2 years, not counting its latest run-in with the bank (data courtesy of the excellent Bay Area Sold Homes site):
The earlier transaction made the agent proud:
We sold it for way over asking! Yay us! Of course that was the responsible thing to do, since $475,000 for 888 sqft (a mere $535 / sqft) is such an incredible deal. Things had turned sour a couple of years later, as the property sold for $525,000 (a steal at $591 / sqft) after being listed for $549,000 in late 2006; it didn't sell until August, 2007 (my emphasis):
And now, guess what, we're in foreclosure (screenshot edited for size; removed one panel). It sure didn't take long.
Darwin: 1, dumb homebuyers: 0.
Now we're down to $311 / sqft, which is still on the high side, but considerably more reasonable. Expect a bidding war and a quick sale over asking for this widdle guy.
Oh, and those other handkerchiefs on Lincoln struggling in the $400k-$500k range? They're toast with a new comp like this.
This is an excellent development. Watch for more of these in the scary upcoming holiday season.
Update 12/11/08: Sold for $400,000.
Excellent Home buying opportunity [...] Adorable 1 bed and 1 bath fully detach victorian nestled on a traquil tree line st with ez acces to parks, [...] one of the LOWEST priced homes is Alameda and a great condo alternative on a Huge lot.This abbreviated listing is for an abbreviated home with the following abbreviated specs:
1 bedroom, 1 bathroom, 888 sqft, 3,750-sqft lot, $276,500, MLS(r) #40368605 and #346373

(map)
I remember seeing this mini Vic on the market not that long ago, and indeed it has sold twice over the past 3 1/2 years, not counting its latest run-in with the bank (data courtesy of the excellent Bay Area Sold Homes site):
08/12/2007 | 2253 Clinton Avenue | $525,000 | 1 | 888 | 1895 | Alameda | 94501 |
05/29/2005 | 2253 Clinton Avenue | $475,000 | 1 | 888 | 1995 | Alameda | 94501 |
We sold it for way over asking! Yay us! Of course that was the responsible thing to do, since $475,000 for 888 sqft (a mere $535 / sqft) is such an incredible deal. Things had turned sour a couple of years later, as the property sold for $525,000 (a steal at $591 / sqft) after being listed for $549,000 in late 2006; it didn't sell until August, 2007 (my emphasis):Open Homes for the Weekend of Oct. 7 and 8, 2006
Published: Friday, 06 October 2006Information on open homes listed below was gathered by the Alameda Sun for the purposes of providing prospective real estate buyers a place to start their search. The Sun does not guarantee the accuracy, timeliness or completeness of the information. To list your property on this page or www.alamedasun.com, call 263-1472.
1437 Morton St. $259,000 Sunday 2-4 1433 Morton St. “B” $315,000 Sunday 2-4 955 Shore Point Court #212 $325,000 Sunday 2-4 2133 Santa Clara Ave. #212 $398,000 Sunday 2-4 1533 Pacific Ave. $450,000 Sunday 2-4 2137 Otis Drive #209 $475,000 Sunday 2-4 1816 Chestnut St. $495,000 Sunday 2-4 1033 Verdemar Drive $520,000 Sunday 1:30-4:30 1033 Verdemar Drive $520,000 Saturday 1:30-4:30 2253 Clinton Ave. $549,000 Sunday 2-4
And now, guess what, we're in foreclosure (screenshot edited for size; removed one panel). It sure didn't take long.
Darwin: 1, dumb homebuyers: 0.Now we're down to $311 / sqft, which is still on the high side, but considerably more reasonable. Expect a bidding war and a quick sale over asking for this widdle guy.
Oh, and those other handkerchiefs on Lincoln struggling in the $400k-$500k range? They're toast with a new comp like this.
This is an excellent development. Watch for more of these in the scary upcoming holiday season.
Update 12/11/08: Sold for $400,000.
There are (probably?) length restrictions on MLS(r) listings, and you often see standard abbreviations like "ba" for "bathroom" used to make room for valuable words like "sweet" or "cozy." One thing I hadn't seen yet is the text message version of a listing, as in today's newcomer at 2008 Rosefield Loop (MLS(r) #40368143):
The house itself is one of those big ugly things on a small lot near Atlantic and Constitution. The specs:
Update 11/22/08: Price dropped to $691,880 in late October. That's right. $8,000 off!
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Great community in a gr8 loc. spacious, bright & cozy home on a level court lot. [...] top decorative condition & has an attractive modern layout. Living & dining rm combo w/high ceiling, [...] enclosed family rm 4 entertaining, stunning laminated wd flr through out."gr8"? "4"? Seriously? Never mind you could have spelled out "for" if you hadn't put an extra space in "throughout" and skipped an article or two. I'm no English purist, but this looks completely unprofessional to me.
The house itself is one of those big ugly things on a small lot near Atlantic and Constitution. The specs:
4 bedrooms, 2 1/2 bath, 1,860 sqft, 2,869-sqft lot, $699,880The freeway-inspired list price comes out to $376 / sqft, which is probably going to be low enough to sell reasonably quickly, although you couldn't pay me enough to live in that nondescript cluster.
Update 11/22/08: Price dropped to $691,880 in late October. That's right. $8,000 off!
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A few weeks ago, Alameda agent Pacita Dimacali and I had an interesting exchange about fluffy marketing copy. I wouldn't want to take undue credit for today's let's-call-a-spade-a-spade craigslist post (at least the first paragraph), but I must say it's refreshingly honest about the condition of the property, at least as Alameda real estate listings go. First the specs:
It's a bit hard to read, so here are a few selected tidbits:
There's no sale history on Zillow, so it's likely this poor TUDOR FIXER fell into disrepair at the hands of a long-time owner who's neglected their estate for whatever reason.
And speaking of Zillow, after all the flak the big Z is getting from the real estate industry for their Zestimates(tm), I find it a bit rich that a Zestimate(tm) is not only mentioned in a listing, but ostensibly used to establish a "fair" list price by deducting $50K from that Zestimate(tm). And for what looks like a serious fixer, $648,000 ($350 / sqft) seems a bit high considering how easy it is to spend $150K on a house that size in that condition--which would bring the price up to a risky $430 / sqft.
Update 9/22/08: Speaking of ominous, this seller is using the old threat tactic.
Update 12/20/08: Sold for $648,000 as is with no credits to the buyer. And so I ask, what the hell?
Update 1/1/09: Sold for $630,000 according to SFGate.
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983 Pearl Street, 4 bedrooms, 1 1/2 bathrooms, 1,846 sqft, 4,500-sqft lotThe headline sounds ominous:
It's a bit hard to read, so here are a few selected tidbits:this must have been a gorgeous homeOf course the rest of the post is fairly typical NAR-approved lyricism: we're trying to sell a house, here, after all. And considering the vast swathes of truly fantastical old homes scattered all across Alameda, "eye-candy to an architecture buff" is unnecessary hyperbole--frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn about all the samey Spanish/Mediterranean houses in that part of town, and I doubt many people do either, at least in terms of architectural "eye-candy." Pretty, yes. Cute, why not. Inviting, I'll give you that. But "eye-candy to an architecture buff"? Hardly.
cracked plaster everywhere
damaged wood trim
$24,295 of Section 1 repairs
There's no sale history on Zillow, so it's likely this poor TUDOR FIXER fell into disrepair at the hands of a long-time owner who's neglected their estate for whatever reason.
And speaking of Zillow, after all the flak the big Z is getting from the real estate industry for their Zestimates(tm), I find it a bit rich that a Zestimate(tm) is not only mentioned in a listing, but ostensibly used to establish a "fair" list price by deducting $50K from that Zestimate(tm). And for what looks like a serious fixer, $648,000 ($350 / sqft) seems a bit high considering how easy it is to spend $150K on a house that size in that condition--which would bring the price up to a risky $430 / sqft.
Update 9/22/08: Speaking of ominous, this seller is using the old threat tactic.
$648000 Last chance to submit offer on Fixer Tudor in east end (alameda) (map)
Reply to: hous-850633317@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2008-09-22, 9:33AM PDT
Seller reviewing offers Tuesday, Sept. 23 at 1 pm. If you're interested in writing an offer, please let me know or drop it off at our office on 2424 Central Avenue, Alameda by 12 noon.
Update 12/20/08: Sold for $648,000 as is with no credits to the buyer. And so I ask, what the hell?
Update 1/1/09: Sold for $630,000 according to SFGate.
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I always get very excited when a Victorian or a Gold Coast house comes on the market. The way I see it, there isn't much point in owning your own home in Alameda unless it's a Victorian (or a really nice Craftsman). So when I saw this new one show up today I thought "Yay! a Gold Coast Victorian!". 1833 San Antonio Avenue, Alameda has the following mouth-watering specs, in addition to a great address and a respectable MLS(r) #40367794:
Then I saw the price: $1,175,000, or $536 / sqft, which is way too high.
Then I saw the sale history and did some math.
Update a few hours later: I drove by and confirmed the street view photo. There's no siding on the front of the house, even though there is some on the east side of the house. The bulgy tower seems out of place, even though towers are common in houses from that period; it just looks funny all naked like that without any wood siding, especially compared to two dozen Vics on the same block in full wood siding attire. And if you chance on the photos that just appeared on various MLS(r) sites, which EBRD objects to my posting here, you'll see the inside has essentially zero Victorian character (but a lot of Terminator-clad kitchen toys).
Update 10/26/08: Price dropped to $1,095,000 on 10/22.
Update 2/3/09: It's back.
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3 bedrooms, 1 1/2 bathrooms, 2,192 sqft, 4,320-sqft lot (per public records)Then I saw the street view photo. They're not kidding about the "home you have to visit the inside to really appreciate," wonky grammar notwithstanding. What happened to all the siding?
4 bedrooms, 2 1/2 bathrooms (per other places I was chastised for mentioning)
Beautiful, spacious home [...] Gold Coast. Granite, stone, marble, custom paint and moldings [...] Pocket doors, formal dining room [...] a home you have to visit the inside to really appreciate. [...]
Then I saw the price: $1,175,000, or $536 / sqft, which is way too high.Then I saw the sale history and did some math.
$660,000 to $1,175,000 in 4 1/2 years represents a rate of appreciation of about 17% y-o-y, every year, since it was last purchased. I realize the owners may have done significant improvements to the place, but nearly doubling the price of a home? Give me a break. If it was such a wreck they did bring it back to life, why on earth did they pay $660,000 for it in the first place?Last sale and tax info
- Sold 03/19/2004: $660,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $8,48
Update a few hours later: I drove by and confirmed the street view photo. There's no siding on the front of the house, even though there is some on the east side of the house. The bulgy tower seems out of place, even though towers are common in houses from that period; it just looks funny all naked like that without any wood siding, especially compared to two dozen Vics on the same block in full wood siding attire. And if you chance on the photos that just appeared on various MLS(r) sites, which EBRD objects to my posting here, you'll see the inside has essentially zero Victorian character (but a lot of Terminator-clad kitchen toys).
Update 10/26/08: Price dropped to $1,095,000 on 10/22.
Update 2/3/09: It's back.
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This just in--a new "starter" bungalow at 447 Lincoln just appeared. You won't want to miss this one. Sweet, lovely, adorable and cozy. Remember it's a great time to buy--interest rates are at an all-time low, and prices are at historic lows too. You can't time the market. You will find out about the bottom when it is too late.
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A minuscule West End crackerbox on a busy section of Lincoln just showed up on pacunion (no link until EBRD issues are resolved). Known as MLS(r) #40367711, it has the following publicly-available specs:
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The seller massively overpaid back in 2006 and is probably trying to find a greater fool to unload their cozy post-war breadbox on:
This one will be fun to watch.
Update 9/10/08: It didn't take long to appear on Craigslist (typo in the address, but I'm pretty sure this is the one) at a lower price with a "short sale" label.
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A minuscule West End crackerbox on a busy section of Lincoln just showed up on pacunion (no link until EBRD issues are resolved). Known as MLS(r) #40367711, it has the following publicly-available specs:
2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 722 sqft, 2,616-sqft lotHow much for all seven hundred twenty two square feet? A mere $519,000, or $719 / sqft.
Lovely starter [...] renovated interior. [...] parquet flooring. Kitchen is upgraded. Floweing plant in the backyard.
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The seller massively overpaid back in 2006 and is probably trying to find a greater fool to unload their cozy post-war breadbox on:
They've got some serious competition right down the street (bigger, pretty, one more bedroom, $94,000 less).Last sale and tax info
- Sold 03/17/2006: $530,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $6,895
This one will be fun to watch.
Update 9/10/08: It didn't take long to appear on Craigslist (typo in the address, but I'm pretty sure this is the one) at a lower price with a "short sale" label.
$499000 Lovely Starter Home - 2 Bedroom 1 bath (alameda)
Reply to: junsayrealestate@yahoo.com [?]
Date: 2008-09-10, 12:30PM PDT
477 Lincoln Avenue
Alameda CA 94501
$499k
• Lovely Starter Home
• 2 Bedroom 1 bath
• Parquet wood flooring
• Wood burning fireplace
• Gas Stove
• 1 Car garage
• Living space is 722 sq ft
• Lot size is 2616 sq ft
• Close to Schools
• Clean and bright
• Lots of upgrades
• Short Sale with Lender's approval
$499k
Associate Broker
Josie Junsay GRI, CRS, SBA
(510) 522-1362 OFFICE
(510) 938-5732 CELL
(888) 857-1621 FAX
junsayrealestate@yahoo.com
All information deemed reliable but not guaranteed
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This week's recent sales on SFGate showed a small bungalow I hadn't noticed when it was on the market, 1541 Paru Street. The specs are, ahem, cozy:
What's also encouraging is that it was once listed for $429,000, when it was Alameda Sun's Home of the Week. This means someone lowballed and the seller (get this) accepted the 17%-off bid instead of chasing the market down for months. We need more sellers like that.
The sale history doesn't reveal anything scary, so one hopes everyone's reasonably happy with the transaction.
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1 bedroom, 1 bathroom, 952 sqft, 2,058-sqft lotThis little house just sold for $355,000, which is encouraging considering the obscene asking prices we've been seeing on other small properties.
What's also encouraging is that it was once listed for $429,000, when it was Alameda Sun's Home of the Week. This means someone lowballed and the seller (get this) accepted the 17%-off bid instead of chasing the market down for months. We need more sellers like that.
The sale history doesn't reveal anything scary, so one hopes everyone's reasonably happy with the transaction.
Sales History
Sale History & Tax Info Sale History 08/12/2008: $355,000 04/04/2006: $267,500 09/30/1992: $156,000 No other sale data is available
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This property somewhere in the "HEART" of Alameda just appeared on Craigslist.
It doesn't look like much on the outside (the house appears to be listing to the left):
So I don't know whether to take "The inside will blow your socks off !" as an exciting promise or a veiled threat.
Does anybody know where this property might be?
Update 8/29/2008: They're not kidding about the inside. *Shudder*. And I would really like to know who was building Victorians in 1921.
Update 9/5/08: The address is now official, as is the price. I like how the seller is dictating the terms: all cash AND the buyer pays all closing costs. $610,000 for what looks like a smallish (1,520-sqft) fixer-upper with no concessions makes you wonder whether Linnard (or the seller) is truly an idiot or merely a complete moron.
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There's no address, no price (other than "CHEAP $$"), and there appear to be 3 bedrooms and 4 bedrooms. It also looks nothing like a house built in 1921. Maybe the poster was impaired when they composed that post.HANDYMAN SPECIAL CASH _ CHEAP $$ (alameda) (map)
Reply to: see below
Date: 2008-08-28, 7:27PM PDT
Check out this lovely Victorian Home , in the HEART of Alameda
A MUST SEE, you don't want this one to pass you by !
The inside will blow your socks off !
3 Bed
4 Bed
living area 1.520
Lot size 3.800
Built 1921
CALL LINNARD NOW 510 927-1416
It doesn't look like much on the outside (the house appears to be listing to the left):
So I don't know whether to take "The inside will blow your socks off !" as an exciting promise or a veiled threat.Does anybody know where this property might be?
Update 8/29/2008: They're not kidding about the inside. *Shudder*. And I would really like to know who was building Victorians in 1921.
Update 9/5/08: The address is now official, as is the price. I like how the seller is dictating the terms: all cash AND the buyer pays all closing costs. $610,000 for what looks like a smallish (1,520-sqft) fixer-upper with no concessions makes you wonder whether Linnard (or the seller) is truly an idiot or merely a complete moron. The specs don't match the public records at all, but the photo does.$610000 HANDYMAN SPECIAL CASH _ CHEAP $$ (alameda)
Reply to: see below
Date: 2008-09-05, 3:20PM PDT
Check out this lovely Victorian Home , in the HEART of AlamedaPostingID: 829124481
OPEN HOUSE 1PM --3PM SUNDAY, 09-07-08 A MUST SEE, you don't want this one to pass you by !
The inside will blow your socks off !
4 BATH
4 BED
living area 1.520
Lot size 3.800
Built 1921
CALL LINNARD NOW 510 927-1416
A ALL CASH DEAL, Buyer pays all closeing cost1228 high street google map yahoo map
- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
1228 High Street, Alameda, CA
Public Facts:
- Single family
- 2 beds
- 2.0 bath
- 1,718 sqft
- Lot 8,000 sqft
- Built in 1894
Update 9/23/08: Price dropped to $585,000, still with that bizarre requirement of a "cash deal". Do they seriously expect someone to have $585,000 in cash burning a hole in their pocket and to be willing to spend it on their Victorian hovel?Last sale and tax info
- Sold 01/31/1989: $249,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $4,612
$585000 HANDYMAN SPECIAL CASH / CHEAP (alameda) (map)
Reply to: hous-851886834@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2008-09-23, 7:31AM PDT
Would you like to own this lovely 1896 Victorian in the heart of Alameda
2 Bedroom
4 Bathroom, One on each floor. Hard wood floors thru out first floor.
Nicely finished rooms in Attic.
New roof spring of 2007,30yr shingle.
Full unit in Basement that could be Rented, A MUST SEE !
House will be sold as is. Out side needs love and some care !!
lot size 8,000 Sq ft House,1,758 Sq ft
A CASH DEAL, CALL LINNARD @(510) 927-1416
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The condos at Crown Harbor are very nice, good sized, and very close to the water. A lot of them have great views, and the whole cluster is sheltered behind a heavy gate that keeps the riff-raff from the nearby Webster Street liquor stores out and the mostly middle-aged and senior residents in. The grounds are vast and very clean, which suggests a whopping monthly HOA fee.
That being said, they've also been grotesquely expensive, and the current market correction is hitting them very hard--they're competing on price with a million full-blown, free-standing Victorian and Craftsman houses.
A large unit on Queens Road recently dropped its price in mid August from its initial $675,000 (or $670,000, depending on where you look), while its smaller cousin had the hardest time selling (I don't know what happened to it; it's off the MLS(r) as of September, 2008). So I thought I'd look under the carpet to see what kind of nastiness lurks beneath. First, the specs:
I don't know if Dianna Wyman is the owner of this particular unit--she's the (co-)owner of the Bayside Real Estate brokerage firm. For her sake, let's hope she doesn't also own our big townhouse, given...
sad funny thing is that whoever owns this place over-improved in every room, judging by the photos on the site and the description above (which suggests the remodel is the current owner's doing, at least in my reading of it), in addition to massively overpaying for a condo under 2,000 sqft three years ago. The result is a gilded elephant they're never going to be able to sell for close to a breakeven point (not even counting the cost of the remodel).
Update 9/19/08: Down we go, to $625,000. Maybe with a new agent named Belinda Young. The official site still shows the old $670,000 price as of today.
Update 2/6/09: Still on the market, droppedtwice three times, to $585,000 $575,000.
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That being said, they've also been grotesquely expensive, and the current market correction is hitting them very hard--they're competing on price with a million full-blown, free-standing Victorian and Craftsman houses.
A large unit on Queens Road recently dropped its price in mid August from its initial $675,000 (or $670,000, depending on where you look), while its smaller cousin had the hardest time selling (I don't know what happened to it; it's off the MLS(r) as of September, 2008). So I thought I'd look under the carpet to see what kind of nastiness lurks beneath. First, the specs:
2 bedrooms, 2.5 bathrooms, 1,816 sqft, townhouse, MLS(r) #40354108, $649,000The official site describes the unit lyrically:
Lovely Townhouse Nestled Near Alameda Beach.The old price still shows, as well as an obviously over-improved bathroom and an ambiguously-worded credit at the bottom (my emphasis):
From your front door turn right, take 189 steps and enjoy bird and marine wildlife, the marina, views of San Francisco, and the shoreline path.
This home in a restful gated community with well-kept grounds and sweeping lawns, enjoys a bay view from the upstairs. With over 1800 square feet per the assessor, the bedroom suites are large, with vaulted ceilings, plenty of light and tree views. The home has been tastefully remodeled with hardwood floors throughout the downstairs, granite counters, cream-colored cabinetry and stainless steel appliances. The patio off the dining room is private with slate tiles and room for planting
I don't know if Dianna Wyman is the owner of this particular unit--she's the (co-)owner of the Bayside Real Estate brokerage firm. For her sake, let's hope she doesn't also own our big townhouse, given...TheLast sale and tax info
- Sold 11/10/2005: $717,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $6,136
Update 9/19/08: Down we go, to $625,000. Maybe with a new agent named Belinda Young. The official site still shows the old $670,000 price as of today.
Update 2/6/09: Still on the market, dropped
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When you can't come up with anything nice to say, keep your mouth shut. Seems the agent for the ugly box (with awnings for fun) at 2241 Buena Vista took that advice to heart: the MLS(r) description is blank. At least I can quote it in its entirety without catching flak from the fellows at EBRD.
The specs:
Google's Street View van got a lucky shot of an almost period beater parked in front.
My guess is that a 650-sqft 1+1 apartment would rent for about $1,000, if that. The mortgage would be somewhere around $3,200 assuming 20% down and a 6.5% interest rate, to which you might want to add $600 for property tax, $600 set aside for maintenance, plus the $300 or so you could be earning every month on the $125,000 you put down to buy this investment property, adding up to about $56,000 in fixed costs and shortfall per year.
$56,000 out (in the best-case, no-emergency scenario), $24,000 in (in the best-case, full-occupancy scenario). This means you need to pay $2,700 a month for the privilege of owning this truly lovely investment building. And you have to live somewhere else, since both units are spoken for lest you might lose even more money.
What an INCREDIBLE DEAL.
The sale history on Zillow only shows an abnormally low transaction in 1999:
Update 10/12/08: Price dropped to $585,000 a couple of days ago.
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The specs:
2x 1-bedroom, 1-bathroom, 650-sqft units (building total 1,302 sqft), built in cheerful 1947, listed at $625,000 (MLS(r) #40358839)This duplex is a particularly fine example of post-war architectural extravagance (it's the one in the middle):
Google's Street View van got a lucky shot of an almost period beater parked in front.My guess is that a 650-sqft 1+1 apartment would rent for about $1,000, if that. The mortgage would be somewhere around $3,200 assuming 20% down and a 6.5% interest rate, to which you might want to add $600 for property tax, $600 set aside for maintenance, plus the $300 or so you could be earning every month on the $125,000 you put down to buy this investment property, adding up to about $56,000 in fixed costs and shortfall per year.
$56,000 out (in the best-case, no-emergency scenario), $24,000 in (in the best-case, full-occupancy scenario). This means you need to pay $2,700 a month for the privilege of owning this truly lovely investment building. And you have to live somewhere else, since both units are spoken for lest you might lose even more money.
What an INCREDIBLE DEAL.
The sale history on Zillow only shows an abnormally low transaction in 1999:
The price was just dropped from $649,000 to $625,000 a couple of days ago, after 40-some days on the market. At this rate, it'll take a year and a half of price drops before the numbers start making any kind of sense.Last sale and tax info
* Transaction not included in Zestimate.
- Sold 12/29/1999: $57,500 *
- 2007 Property Tax: $3,213
Update 10/12/08: Price dropped to $585,000 a couple of days ago.
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Today's craigslist post is rather unremarkable. First the publicly available specs:

3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1,385 sqft, 5,152-sqft lot, $649,500 ($469 / sqft)
$649500 SINGLE LEVEL, EASY LIVING MEDITERRANEAN (alameda) (map)
Reply to: hous-827372508@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2008-09-04, 1:27PM PDT
Great single level, easy living Mediterranean in Alameda's Bay Farm area. 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, newly painted interior, eat-in kitchen, wood floors, updated light fixtures, 2-car garage, large patio. Close to shops, restaurants, excellent schools, parks, golf, tennis, fitness club. Convenient commute, or use bus, BART, and ferry service to S.F.
1017 HOLLY STREET at Mecartney

Given its sale history, today's list price is just $681 under the previous price. They'll break even if they get the buyer's and the seller's agents to chip in $340.50 each.
I suppose that's what you get when you buy an overpriced home. Turning around and selling it for about what you paid for it doesn't make it any less overpriced.
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I suppose that's what you get when you buy an overpriced home. Turning around and selling it for about what you paid for it doesn't make it any less overpriced.
Last sale and tax info
- Sold 12/02/2005: $650,181
- 2007 Property Tax: $8,184
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The large house at 2824 Santa Clara was on craigslist a few months ago, described as an "executive home" if memory serves. I'm not sure what that means other than a euphemism for "around $1M." It's now back on various real estate sites with a shiny new MLS(r) number, 40366628 (no link until EBRD issues are resolved). First, the publicly-available specs:
Currently at $990,000 ($475), it's squarely on the high side, but buyers routinely lose their minds over Fernside houses, so it'll probably sell for about that much (sigh).
That said, it hasn't always been priced below $1M. In an earlier incarnation, it was listed at $1,095,000:

And before that, it was even higher:

Interestingly, the earliest listing shows 2 1/2 bathrooms and a 2,700-sqft floor plan, and no MLS(r) number; my guess is those specs were owner-provided rather than public records. So far the price has been dropped a total of$209,999 (17%) $249,999 (21%).
I wasn't able to find a sale history on Trulia or Zillow, so this house may well have been owned for decades (as suggested by a $626 property tax bill for all of 2007!); the seller should (and evidently does) have some wiggle room available on the price. Sadly, I could see someidiot executive pay $950K for this thing, so it's probably not going to drop all that much before someone buys it.
Update 11/14/08: Price dropped a whole 4%, to $950,000.
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2 or 3 bedrooms (depending on where you look), 2 bathrooms, 2,082 sqft, 6,656-sqft lot, $990,000
From Zillow:
This elegant and stately split-level traditional is located in highly coveted Fernside. Features include arched entryways, vaulted ceiling in lvg rm/great rm, formal dining rm, and a landscaped back yd. An additional bonus room and bedroom may be used as rec/rumpus room or guest quarters
Currently at $990,000 ($475), it's squarely on the high side, but buyers routinely lose their minds over Fernside houses, so it'll probably sell for about that much (sigh).
That said, it hasn't always been priced below $1M. In an earlier incarnation, it was listed at $1,095,000:

And before that, it was even higher:

Interestingly, the earliest listing shows 2 1/2 bathrooms and a 2,700-sqft floor plan, and no MLS(r) number; my guess is those specs were owner-provided rather than public records. So far the price has been dropped a total of
I wasn't able to find a sale history on Trulia or Zillow, so this house may well have been owned for decades (as suggested by a $626 property tax bill for all of 2007!); the seller should (and evidently does) have some wiggle room available on the price. Sadly, I could see some
Update 11/14/08: Price dropped a whole 4%, to $950,000.
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This property threatened to come on the market back in March via semi-cryptic craigslist posts. It's finally made it onto craigslist again, with few details. The address isn't given, but my sources tell me it is located at 1025 San Antonio. The listing is still a little coy (see bold passages below; my emphasis):
There's no sale history on Zillow, so one assumes the house has been in the same family for a long time and might even be owned outright. You can't beat the location, and (assuming I have the right house) the following specs make it competitive, at $339 / sqft:

Update 9/23/08: Finally listed on the MLS(r) as #40371147, for $825,000, which interestingly is exactly one agent's commission above the previous "no agents need apply" listing. I guess selling a ~$800K house to someone with the requirement they not be represented isn't as easy as it sounds.
Update 11/28/08: I thought it had sold, but the official Prudential page still has it as active after 66 days on the market.
Update 12/05/08: Sold for $809,000. Good luck to the neighbors.
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Aside from spelling his own last name two different ways, Nick is very cagey about this house and not telling you where exactly it is. I think it's the brown Craftsman next to the Greek revival compound extraordinaire (drool) below:$799000 "Gold Coast" Craftsman on the Island of Alameda! (alameda) (map)
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Date: 2008-09-02, 9:53PM PDT
This is a rare opportunity to purchase a beautiful Craftman home in one of the most desirable areas in the East Bay - before it is offered to the general public! This home is on a beautiful tree-lined street and is comprised of four bedrooms, two baths, refinished hardwood floors, original paneling and wainscoating, tiled fireplace, built in buffet and may other original details. There is an attached one car garage w/bonus room above! Outside is a delightful rear garden area with potting shed and patio. If you're looking to own a home on Alameda's Gold Coast, don't miss this opportunity!
I am offering this home first to buyers who ARE NOT being represented by a real estate agent, and who are pre-approved by a lender. Please contact me directly for a private showing before I offer the home to the general public. I can be reached at (510)986-2008
Nick Flaconio,Realtor
Prudential California Realty
nick.falconio@prurealty.com
There's no sale history on Zillow, so one assumes the house has been in the same family for a long time and might even be owned outright. You can't beat the location, and (assuming I have the right house) the following specs make it competitive, at $339 / sqft:3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 2,359 sqft, 6,250-sqft lotOther than perpetual house envy when you look at the 8-bedroom, 4,500-sqft Parthenon extravaganza next door, in this market this house seems like a reasonable deal in the best location in town, especially given its large lot. Of course, $799,000 for almost any house under 3,500 sqft is obscene--note that I said "in this market"...

Update 9/23/08: Finally listed on the MLS(r) as #40371147, for $825,000, which interestingly is exactly one agent's commission above the previous "no agents need apply" listing. I guess selling a ~$800K house to someone with the requirement they not be represented isn't as easy as it sounds.
Update 11/28/08: I thought it had sold, but the official Prudential page still has it as active after 66 days on the market.
Update 12/05/08: Sold for $809,000. Good luck to the neighbors.
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Another adorable bungalow on Bungalow Boulevard! It feels like the whole adorable street is being sold off this year. This little guy at 3259 Sterling has the following publicly-available specs (MLS(r) #40366431; no link until EBRD issues are resolved):
Now the street is "picutesque." That must mean "so cute you are compelled to take photos." But at least they didn't use the word "sweet."
At $562,000, it's right in the middle of the other two bungalows on Sterling, but it's quite a bit smaller (the other two are both 1,194 sqft, or 10% larger), and at $524 / sqft it's just way too expensive. I would personally price it at $499,000 and sell it in one weekend, but then, I'm not the owner. Neither would I buy it, even at that price, but that's beside the point--it's just overpriced by about $120 / sqft. Drop it to $440,000 and you might just get rid of it.
Nothing special about its sale history:
Update 11/7/08: Sold for $570,000.
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2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1,073 sqft, 3,422 sqft lot, $562,000
Adorable bungalow on picutesque Sterling Ave. [...] Craftsman with tons of original detail [...] Updated kitchen and bath, [...] Perfect location on cozy street [...]
Now the street is "picutesque." That must mean "so cute you are compelled to take photos." But at least they didn't use the word "sweet." At $562,000, it's right in the middle of the other two bungalows on Sterling, but it's quite a bit smaller (the other two are both 1,194 sqft, or 10% larger), and at $524 / sqft it's just way too expensive. I would personally price it at $499,000 and sell it in one weekend, but then, I'm not the owner. Neither would I buy it, even at that price, but that's beside the point--it's just overpriced by about $120 / sqft. Drop it to $440,000 and you might just get rid of it.
Nothing special about its sale history:
My main beef (other than the amount itself) is that the $562,000 price means a 7% y-o-y appreciation, and that's just greedy. You should have sold it 2 years ago.Last sale and tax info
- Sold 12/24/2001: $384,000
- 2007 Property Tax: $5,512
Update 11/7/08: Sold for $570,000.
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